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Post by Chef Bob on Wed 21 Jul - 16:03

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Post by Chef Bob on Wed 21 Jul - 16:06


""mostly recommend for motorcycle use, are the "heavy-duty" oils. They are commonly misunderstood, and often referred to as "diesel oils." They are NOT energy conserving, have higher zinc levels, as high as 0.16%, and by virtue of their multi-duty have a better engine protection package than an oil that is only rated "SL". These heavy-duty oils are rated SJ or SL, plus CH-4. They are currently closer in formulation to the motorcycle specific oils and to the "SG" oils that many motorcycle makers recommend.""

Allison C4 is an industrial and heavy duty commercial wet clutch and gear oil spec...

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Post by adambikers on Fri 23 Jul - 17:53

chef, setelah beberapa hari pakai.. ada komen anda..
selalu duk dengar diskusi je pasal mende ni tapi takde sorang pon yg berani buat..

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Post by jimf on Fri 23 Jul - 17:56

tahniah chef...berkat usaha jadi chef terulong, sekarang dah mampu upgrade pakai lori utk meniaga... bravo... cheers

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Post by Chef Bob on Sat 24 Jul - 9:48

hampeh en jink!!!! Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Chef Bob on Sat 24 Jul - 9:54

adambikers wrote:chef, setelah beberapa hari pakai.. ada komen anda..
selalu duk dengar diskusi je pasal mende ni tapi takde sorang pon yg berani buat..

mula-mula rasa berat sikit tapi lepas 500km enjin smoth gila!!!!!
sesuai untuk moto kategori reput.... senang stat pagi....


petikan dr pengguna minyak lori yang pakai mobil sd delvac mx ( chef pakai rimula pasni nak try delvac pulak)

review HDEO (DELVAC MX) :

malam pertama
aku msukkan HDEO,,enjin ok..msuk2 trus smooth...tp,,bwak jenjalan dekat2 jer..bile lepas minyak,,,enjin cam terase bergerak sendiri..macam ringan...

hari kedua:
bwak pagi2 ke U, enjin terase kadang2 smooth,,kadang2 tak...bercampur2...bile lenjan,,terase gegaran kat handle sblh kiri...hati aku mula tawar2 ikan..sbb pkai EO bese,,,handle tak penah gegar..(kuatkan hati,,ni mula2 jer..)...tak sedap ar rase nak lenjan handle gegar..mula ar rase nak tukar EO balik..huhuuu~

hari ketiga:
bawak pagi2,,,enjin smooth...mmg sedap giler...bile stop kat traffic light,,,start bawak blik,,,putaran enjin tak rase langsung...smpai meter CT pg 70-80km/hr,,baru rase putaran kat kaki..huu...mule yakin balik ngan delvac..perjalanan smooth hingga ke destinasi..tp,,time balik umah,,,(tgh hari),,bile bawak slow (gear 1-3),,,enjin rase smooth..tp,,biler bwak laju enjin rase kurang smooth ar...rase cam tak brp sedap nak lenjan dan rase cam da pkai EO motor smpai 1000km da....ringan mmg ringan..tp,,kurang memuaskan ar..

hari keempat:
aku bawak pagi,,,rase cam bese..smooth jugak..tapi,,bile ram tinggi or full throtle,,ade rase sikit2 gegaran..tp,,bese ar tu kot..tak byk..bile tgh hari plak (waktu panas utk test kegegarannya Grin),,aku bwak slow,,,enjin smooth...bile bawak laju,,,gegaran ada..tp,,dah berkurang dari sebelumnya...ada rasa semut-semut (kebas/gegar) kat celah kangkang...hati pun jadi makin kuat nak tukar EO sbb masih tak mendapat kepuasan spt memakai motul...

hari kelima:
pagi bwak ok..tp,,bile bwak laju,,rase mcm lain dr sblmnya...(macam sama jer..)
time tgh hari,,tak dpt nak test sbb cuaca mendung..moto smooth ar sbb cuaca sejuk..

hari keenam: dapat rase cam moto pakai EO biase...hati mula lega sikit sbb HDEO mula bertukar mnjadi EO...tp,,tak dpt test time cuaca panas jugak..dpt test time suam2 kuku jer..

(moto tak gerak-cuti dua hari)

hari ketujuh:
bwak pagi,,baru rase sepenuhnya cam EO...try tgh hari,,,baru aku dapat merasa cam moto aku da kembali memakai motul...dari rasa tawar2 ikan kepada manis2 udang (wlupun aku x mkn udang)

hari kelapan
(smalam): aku bwak pagi ke,,tgh hari ke,,,rase smooth ar...rase lebih kurang cam motul (moto da terbiasa pakai motul 1000@3100 dari awal)
aku ram tinggi2 pun stakat ni ok...benti time traffic light bunyi enjin tak brp dengar (senyap dr LC)..penggunaan minyak tak byk beza (sama)..yg buat rasa puas hati,,,sbb rase same cam motul,,ram tinggi tak gegar da dan macam syok meleper da skrg ni (sblm ni takut2)...MOTORKU KEMBALI NORMAL...harap2 ia berterusan...(lepas ni pakai delvac je ar aku..hee)




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Re: Ujikaji DRBig pakai minyak lori ada bran????

Post by Chef Bob on Sat 24 Jul - 9:57

EO DESEL DAN ATF

Apa itu HDEO Huh
Sejenis Pelincir kerja berat-heavy duty yg digunakan pada kenderaan komersial-diesel.....juga sesuai digunakan pada enjin motor.

Apakah itu ATF Huh
Auto Transmission Fluid yang digunakan dalam sistem gearbox kenderaan automatik..

Antara Jenis EO desel terbaik tuk digunakan Huh
Mobil Super diesel...Mobil Delvax MX...Shell Rimula family...

Antara jenis ATF terbaik tuk dicampurkan Huh
TAK KISAH...asalkan ia ATF yang belum dipakai..Lagi afdal kalo yang ada DEXRON III

Sebab apa campur ATF dalam HDEO Huh
Tuk menambah kesedapan enjin ....bermakna enjin akan lebih ringan dan lembut

Berapa banyak nak bubuh ATF ni dalam campuran. Huh
Jangan melebihi 70% sahaja...Campuran dilingkungan 80% HDEO-20% ATF @ 90% HDEO-10% ATF
-dinasihatkan tidak melebihi sukatan sebab ATF mampu merubah sifat EO itu sendiri jika dicampur berlebihan..
EXAMPLE...KRISS--800ML HDEO-200ml ATF

Petua2 tambahan Huh
Jika nak masuk ATF,dan xpenah masuk ATF sebelum nih..SILA TUKAR OF anda tuk kesan maksima


RESEPI

aku dah wat campuran HDMO+EOMotor+ATF dengan nisbah 300ml:200ML:100ml.hasilnya sangat menakjubkan. memang best.enjin lagi cepat serasi.lagi cepat rase feel. enjin lagi ringan.ptg smlm tukar Eo.pagi nih try bwk g opis. memang best. sape2 nak mencube bolehla mencube resepi aku tuh.

HDMO, EOmotor dan ATF yg aku gunakan HDMO pennzoil gold longlife 15w40, fully synthetic maxoil 10w40 dan ATF Dexron III Mercon. semua eo ini lebihan yg lama2.xmau membazir.

bagi yg kapasiti enjin satu liter boleh mencuba dengan nisbah HDMO600ml:Eomotor300ml:ATF100ml.
korang boleh guna ape jenis eo pon.

NASIHAT DARIPADA nasrider
Dari menurut amalan patek, segala jenis eo yg belum digunakan takde tempoh xpired, tapi setelah dimasukkan je kedalam engin maka pendek umur lah eo tu.......

RESEPI
untuk fork motorsikal

kuantiti HDeo + Eomotor

HDeo 100ml + Eomotor 200ml = 300ml
upah service tukar oil fork = RM9.00 *bergantung kepada bengkel anda service.

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Post by Chef Bob on Sat 24 Jul - 9:58

dari umah sebelah zzr lum ada lg yg bran...

1. sarjantulang - shogun SP/Proton BLM/Perodua Kelisa - Mobil Super Diesel/Mobil Delvac
MX
2. sop2z - shogun SP/kriss 110 - Mobil Devlax Hi Performance
3. tahawk - kriss100/kriss120/nissan vannete 1.4. - Mobil Super Diesel/BHP
4. WKQ4913 - Yamaha 125z - Shell Rimula R3X
5. Pun_R1(Pengguna TEGAR) - Modenas Kriss 110/Nitro EX5/Perodua Kancil/
- EO Mobil Super Desel + 200ml ATF MITSINBO/SHELL RIMULA
6. Suka_vios - Yamaha rxz135cc/ honda ex-5horsepower - Mobil Super Diesel + ATF Dexron
-III Mercon
7. Alex8fire - Wave 125 X - RIMULA X
8. Nytroz - JaguhStreetRodBuruk - Mobil Devlax Hi Performance
9. Blk.whiteWavE86 - WAVE 125s - Mobil super Diesel
10. syam TUDM(Pengguna TEGAR) - Smash Revo/Panther/GT128 - Mobil
Super Diesel-> Shell Rimula X
11. bdk bru blajo- Rxz /pnther.- Mobil Super Diesel
12. amex - yamaha 125 - EO???
13. ariyako - yamaha 125z - Shell Rimula R3X
14. jerren - Belang - Mobil Delvac Super 1300
15. skolahlama- Shell Rimula R3X
16. sham_stalker - Bakal pengguna Shell Rimula
17. ZUKI86 - MOBIL DELVAC MX - FZ150i
18. SMKST - LC135 ES - SHELL RIMULA(BOTOL KALER ITAM) XPASTI X@R3X
19. KamenRiderZX-Wave125S-Shell Rimula R3X
20. seekers-kriss100(mobil super diesel)
21. inikoi-naza gtr(Mobil super diesel / BHP Heavy Duty Synguard 2000)
22 . Bang Eid - LC135ES - Shell Rimula R3X
23. maarz - 125zr - shell rimula R3X
24. kdsayang - CBR150 - Shell RIMULA X
25. dreadsoul110 - BELANGR150 - Mobil Super Diesel
26. ihsanyasashii - LC135 - Rimula
27. hokkageke4 - RXZ/Belang - Rimula
28. geng balbol - LC135 - DELVAC MX
29. vios88 - WAVE125 - Rimula -(CBR bila bang??hehehe)
30. aki_tycoon - KAWASAKI ZX-7 - Castrol atau HANSFORD...
31. mf_yamato - LC135 SS - shell rimula X
32. janggot8159 - ::motor pe ek??:: - Rimula
32. valentino - Lagenda - Rimula R3X
33. faris5884 - Kriss - Mobil Super Diesel
34. ise414 - wave100r - rimula3x
35. suriwan - FX125 - DELVAC MX
36. megatron_26 - WAVE125 - RIMULA
37. takumi_paehwara - Kriss 110,wave100,C70 - Mobil SD
38. apeNDots - Lagenda Z - RIMULA
39. Mady_Z - RXZ - SHELL RIMULA X
40. bokku - GT128 - Mobil
41. janggot8159 - EX5 - RIMULA
42. eightynine - Lagenda - RIMULA
43. prx2cha - WAVE 125 - Rimula
44. umarluffy - Kriss - Super Diesel
45. daus007 - Lagenda - RIMULA R3X
46. william_shogun - shogun sp - RIMULA R3X
47. Lingo - Smash Revo - Super Diesel
48. payid23 - SHOGUN SP POWER - RIMULA
49. redbull34 - WAVE125R POWER - RIMULA
50. santero_amar - LC135 MONSTER - RIMULA
51. kriss6559 - Kriss HAYATE - C A L T E X D E L O / R I M U L A R 3 X
52. djTom - Nouvo - RIMULA R3X
52. motorama - kriss - RIMULA X
53. lazirsuy - wave/FXR150 - RIMULA
54. recorn - LC ES - RIMULA
55. N18 - LC135 ES - Shell Rimula R3X
56. crazy_throttle - RXZ - RIMULA R3X
57. keropoklekor007 - kriss 110 - MOBIL SD
58. axiest - LC(super power) - RIMULA R3X
59. napi_wave - WAVE125R - RIMULA R3X
60. dude03 - WAVE S - RIMULA
61. lah wsa - LC135 - RIMULA
62. arelane - LAGENDA MONO 130cc POWER - RIMULA R3X
63. ivan7 - shogun - RIMULA R3X
64. fozan - shogun - RIMULA R3X
65. ymihar - shogun - RIMULA R3X
66. kuan - LC SS - RIMULA R3X
67. slayarcher - kriss - RIMULA R3X
68. deathcrane - SMASH - RIMULA R3X
69. mehmet - EX-5 - RIMULA R3X
70. smsn - wave - RIMULA R3X
71. imcop - wave x - RIMULA R3X
72. swissdec - GT128 - RIMULA R3X
73. bunta - shogun - RIMULA R3X
74. rakuzas - shogun - RIMULA R3X
75. kop - shogun - RIMULA R3X
76. wan_sp - shogun - RIMULA R3X <-----baru beli td...siap tipon aku...hehehe
77. zeugen21 ~ KRISS 110 ~ SHELL RIMULA R3X
78. penzoil21 - Lagenda carb 28mm(toyol byk) - RIMULA R1
80. muaz_90 - LC SS/FX110 - Shell Rimula R3X
81. apekejal - Karisma Kapoor - RIMULA R3X
82. Syam1166 - Kriss 110 - Shell Rimula R3X
83. fiesxu - shogun sport - RIMULA R3X
84. asyraf_smile - LC135 SS - Shell Rimula R3X
85. fuulthrottle - Lagenda - Shell Rimula R3X
86. palam - WAVE X - RIMULA R3X
87. dc_sdk - Kriss 160cc - Mobil Super Diesel
88. corganx2 - kriss110 - RIMULA R3X/DELVAC MX
89. aizil - Kriss100 - BARDAHL
90. shark eye - LC135 SS - shell rimula r3x/mobil delvac mx
91. afiq34 - Shogun RR leh pi 130-140kmj - rimula
92. tajul_akb - FZi - RIMULA R3X
93. afeeq - shogun(marshall) -RIMULA R3X
94. labi2koci - shogun - RIMULA R3X
95. Benchoz - JRD Klon Lagenda (modi) - Rimula r3x
96. chamie - motor pe ek?? - Rimula R3X
97. nabelon - FZ150i - Mobil SD
98. CastoricosX - Lagenda 110 Z - Rimula R3X
99. hahahuhu - Lagenda - Rimula R3X
100. knight - kereta, motor - AMEXOIL
101. apiz_legend - shogun - Mobil SD
102. bfu9278 - shogun - Rimula R3X
103. danny_radeon - LC SS - Rimula R3X
104. Belang Tarung 150 - LC/Belang - Rimula R3X
105. locomotion - FZ150i - RIMULA R3X
106. zulhirosue - LC ES - RIMULA
107. izz999 - Lagenda Ottomen - DELO400/Rimula
108. mino4617 - LC SS -Rimula
109. acu - XCITE - RIMULA R3X
110. puteraracing - LC SS - rimula X
111. akunoman - motor pe ek?? - HDEO??
112. ijat666 - Y125Z - shell rimula R3X
113. gerohero - LC ss - shell rimula R3X
114. openg cepai - honda ex5 dream - mobil delvac mx
115. ALONGFXR - SUZUKI FXR150- MOBILSD+ATF3
116. gillbeit - belang - rimula r3x
117. mukri - 125zr - shell rimula r3x
118. labi2koci - sagun RR - Shell R3+
119. BarrySheene Jr. - wave 100r - Shell rimula r3x
120. ucen110zR=lagendaZR STP=Rimula r3x
121. evilgeneration = lagenda z = Rimula r3x
122. Komando69 = Smash Revo = RIMULA R3X
123. faiz wave = honda cbr 150r = rimula r3x
124. jass80 = gt128 = rimula r3x
125. xsanx = rxz = SHELL RIMULA R3X
126. noxbreaker = fxr = Mobil SD
127. mizirxz = rxz = rimula r3x
128. Mr Blue = Lagenda Zr = Rimula R3X
129. BFW4200 = moto ?? = MOBIL SD + SHELL ATF III
130. minturob = sagun rr = MOBIL SD
131. LanQS = Nouvo LC = rimula R3X
132. chym = 135LC ES = MOBIL SD
133. dani_filth7896 = 135LC SS = MOBIL SD
134. hasixteen = nouvo s = rimula R3X
135. amier90 = EX5 high power = rimula R3X
136. tul@ng = yamaha ss110 = Rimula R3X
137. ujang_N9 = Fame / super150 / yamaha SRE / C70 = Rimula R3X
138. reymura naruke = suzuki FXR 150 = Rimula R3X
139. ariffm0hd - yamaha 125Z - Rimula R3X
140. crysalyis - Yamaha LC SS - RIMULA
141. anas89 - fx125 - Delvec Mx
142. wan_210407 - Yang MahalYamaha 125z - Mobil Delvac M


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Post by Chef Bob on Sat 24 Jul - 10:00

Can heavy-duty diesel oil be used in motorcycles?

Motorcycle gasoline engines may not seem in the same league as the big displacement diesel engine under your hood, but they share some of the same lubrication requirements. So yes, in many cases, a premium heavy-duty universal oil capable of serving both diesel and gasoline engines is the best choice for your bike.

The high power-to-displacement ratio of a motorcycle engine means rod and main bearings are subjected to loads that are not normally found in passenger car engines. The valve train is also highly loaded, and requires extreme pressure boundary lubrication. The same can be said about gears in the transmission, which are normally lubricated by engine oil. Oil additives containing phosphorus protect these highly loaded extreme pressure areas (in both gasoline and diesel engines). Because diesel engines have higher loading of components, more of the phosphorus-containing additive is present than in typical passenger car oils. And with advanced catalyst systems for gasoline engines, the phosphorus content has been declining in passenger car oils.

Since many bike engines are air-cooled, and tend to be operated at high power outputs and speeds, their lubricating oil needs to be more resistant to high temperature oxidation. That?s another advantage of a premium universal oil. Another thing you want in your motorcycle is oil that has excellent viscosity control, so that with use it retains high temperature viscosity. Some multiviscosity grade passenger car oils, subjected to extreme loads, can quickly thin out. Their viscosity can drop to the next lower grade.

One last thing to consider is whether oil contains friction modifier additives. For improved fuel economy, most pass

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Post by adambikers on Sat 24 Jul - 16:49

terima kasih chef atas review Wink

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Post by Chef Bob on Sun 25 Jul - 20:35

NO PROBLEM EN ADAMS...

KAWASAKI ZXR250 DENGAN MOBIL DELVAC MX


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Post by Kayz on Tue 26 Oct - 6:14

uiks...penah npk tp nk try hurm....

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Post by xxx on Tue 26 Oct - 7:02

aku salah sorg yg mengguna kan HDEO ni...

dulu, aku pakai rimula r3x jer(takut2 jugak nak guna ni, sbab moto still baru tapi yakin jer lah..)...masuk kat Fz...first2 mang berat...tapi bla dah 300-400km...dah best dah...bla high ram xd lah bunyi kuat sgt...klu pakai EO motor(besanya penzoil)..bunyi kuat kat enjin bla high ram(high speed)...mcm nak runtuh jer...hahahhaha..

skrg ni pakai rimula r3x + ATF...80% HDEO + 20% ATF(ATF brand shell dexron III)...memang lagi smooth berbanding pakai HDEO jer....pick up pun ada peningkatan sket....tukar gear pun smooth jer...gegar bla high ram lagi kurang...x rugi aku try pakai HDEO ni..

saja nak bg review paai HDEO ni...
pas ni, bla nak exchange myk hitam...nak try mobil devlax pula....

sekian laporan dari BERNAMA.... Very Happy

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Post by kudud on Tue 26 Oct - 9:25

uish,kalo x paham bahasa2 teknikal mcm sy ni n nak try gak, cana yer?.. scratch mcm nak try gak laa... tp suma ayat2 diats hanya paham tang kat gamba jer.. bom

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Post by furqaan on Tue 26 Oct - 9:28

Tak per dud ... mike ada tunang .. faham yg lain udah ..

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Post by Amm on Tue 26 Oct - 9:32

Kalo tak de tunang camna...

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Post by furqaan on Tue 26 Oct - 9:38

kalau tak der tunang.. mike ada moto koyak pelasetik laaa..

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Post by Amm on Tue 26 Oct - 9:45

Jgn kacau umah Chef Bob ni.....Apaaarisss

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Post by furqaan on Tue 26 Oct - 10:02

maaf tuan tanah ...

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Post by ManCaL on Tue 26 Oct - 13:50

aku nk try pakai jenis minyak ni..

MOBIL SUPER S PLUS
10W - 40W AGAK OK X?
DR RUMUSAN KEKWN MCM OK JE..

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Re: Ujikaji DRBig pakai minyak lori ada bran????

Post by jimf on Tue 26 Oct - 14:12

ManCAL wrote:aku nk try pakai jenis minyak ni..

MOBIL SUPER S PLUS
10W - 40W AGAK OK X?
DR RUMUSAN KEKWN MCM OK JE..

Rawaman... ko betul2 nk try ke?... scratch

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Re: Ujikaji DRBig pakai minyak lori ada bran????

Post by ManCaL on Tue 26 Oct - 14:41

[quote="jimf"]
ManCAL wrote:aku nk try pakai jenis minyak ni..

MOBIL SUPER S PLUS
10W - 40W AGAK OK X?
DR RUMUSAN KEKWN MCM OK JE..

Rawaman... ko betul2 nk try ke?... scratch

rasa mcm nk try aje..minyak MOBIL SUPER S PLUS TUE
dh banyak bdk zxrianz gune aritu aku bukak furum diaorg..diorg ckp lagi ok drpd brand mutul..
aku pun mcm was2 gak ni..

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Re: Ujikaji DRBig pakai minyak lori ada bran????

Post by kudud on Tue 26 Oct - 14:50

nak ilangkn rsa was2 tu, ko pkai jer bro!! Razz yg penting suci lg murni

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Re: Ujikaji DRBig pakai minyak lori ada bran????

Post by ManCaL on Tue 26 Oct - 14:54

kudud wrote:nak ilangkn rsa was2 tu, ko pkai jer bro!! Razz yg penting suci lg murni

betul tu dud suci murni mcm ko.. Laughing tongue

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Re: Ujikaji DRBig pakai minyak lori ada bran????

Post by furqaan on Tue 26 Oct - 14:58

[quote="ManCAL"]
jimf wrote:
ManCAL wrote:aku nk try pakai jenis minyak ni..

MOBIL SUPER S PLUS
10W - 40W AGAK OK X?
DR RUMUSAN KEKWN MCM OK JE..

Rawaman... ko betul2 nk try ke?... scratch

rasa mcm nk try aje..minyak MOBIL SUPER S PLUS TUE
dh banyak bdk zxrianz gune aritu aku bukak furum diaorg..diorg ckp lagi ok drpd brand mutul..
aku pun mcm was2 gak ni..

teman pakai minyak atar castrol jer satu malaya gak dah sampai .. yg penting cukup 3000 km tukor ..

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